An Inconvenient Guilt Trip

Posted By: Donald W Strickland

First I am an electrical engineer and have been registered as a professional engineer for 32 years, and yes that makes me over 60 years old. By definition I am a scientist. It is interesting to me that I have yet to talk to a single scientist outside the academic community who has a strong belief in anthropogenic global warming. Am I a skeptic? Yes. And I would say that every legitimate scientist is a skeptic. That is why we no longer live in caves and wait for lightning to give us fire. My take on AGW is that the true scientific process has been high-jacked by a few scientists and lots of politicians who have found ways to profit from it. Is the climate warming? Obviously. 20,000 years ago the northern US and all of Canada was under a mile of ice. So for the last 20,000 years the climate has been warming. Man started using extensive amounts of fossil fuels in the last 100 years and is hardly to blame. The real issue is not how to stop using fossil fuels, but what are we going to use for fuel when the fossil fuel supply fails to meet earth's needs. Look at crude oil pumping. In 2006, for the first time ever, crude oil produced fell short of crude oil demand. But I wouldn't ask you to believe me. Check EIA statistics and other reporting resources. Yes we need to conserve our remaining oil and coal and develop suitable alternatives for all of the human race. But not to stop global warming. Ask yourself one question. If Al Gore believed what he is saying, would he fly in private jets and use more energy per month for his house than the average family uses in a year? If he would, then as I recently heard, he wouldn't be a hypocrit, he would be a monster.

Posted on: 9/15/2008 9:44:40 PM

Posted By: Rich Gately

I don't know if "Climate Change" is man made or not (I'm not a climatologist) I do know that if you think that we have not hurt the earth and the atmosphere with all the crap we have been pumping into it in the past 180 years or so, as an industrialized world, you have to be completely ignorant! It would probably be a good idea to change how we view our impact on this earth, or chances are we will make a significant change in our climate, if we have not done so already!

Posted on: 9/15/2008 9:39:49 PM

Posted By: Dave Norwood

Al Gore? Didn't he just win a Nobel Peace Prize for marketing?

Posted on: 9/15/2008 7:00:57 PM

Posted By: bruce

global warming=piltdown man it is a hoax there is nothing we do or don't do that can effect the temperature of the planet.the atmosphere contains 400ppm of co2 this is a low number compared to past amounts of co2 which have been as high as 7000ppm.during the time of the dinosaurs the co2 was 1800ppm.the only thing we can be sure of with our planet is change over time.we can hardly predict 5 day weather forecast with accuracy.so how can the greens say disaster is comming if we don't do as they say?if you look at the doom sayers they are all anti-american commies who need a good kick in the ass.

Posted on: 9/11/2008 4:20:32 PM

Posted By: Republi-Ken

This MAN IS A FOOL. All his arguements are poppy cock. There is no scientific research to back up anything. Just another angry stupid CONSERVATIVE.

Posted on: 9/8/2008 9:43:45 PM

Posted By: Mariah M,

This is the most discusting and ignorant site I have EVER come accross. There are just too many scientists that have studied Global Warming their whole lives that think that GW is a proven scientific fact, who think that if we don't do anything and continue the way we are that there will be catastrophic consequences. And even I have noticed that winters are milder, that honey bees have all but dissapeared, and that sensitive species of fish and frogs have gone extinct or endangered already. And even if GW wern't real does that mean that we should keep polluting the Earth as we have been? Pollution is bad for the environment, wildlife, and people. We should start taking responsability for nature and not just ourselves.

Posted on: 9/8/2008 7:05:35 PM

Posted By: Mike Panzarello

- water vapor is the MAIN greenhouse gas - somewhere around 95% - human contribution of Co2 is absolutely not enough to cause ANY detectable "climate" change... But you liberals and enviro-nazis just go ahead and send Al Gore a blank check and see how fast things change... Why are liberals so dumb??? - Willing to believe anything another elite liberal says??? "climate change" will not hurt us - it is only liberalism that can destroy a just society"... me.

Posted on: 9/5/2008 11:40:18 PM

Posted By: James

Wow...I knew hippies were dirty but I had no idea they were so insulting and low class as well. So first off you dirt worshipper, I have a college degree. It has a frame and everything. It is really neat!

Secondly, since you are lazy as well as being rude and insulting, you might not have noticed those big buttons on the left side of the page. You know, the one that says SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE for example.

I find it ironic that you can spend all that time writing up an ignorant diatribe, but not 10 seconds to click a link.

Way to go hippy...you are a shining example to the rest of your unshowered people.

Posted on: 9/2/2008 11:08:22 AM

Posted By: Jared Tarr

I just thought I would post, for those of you who cite cooler summers and growing antarctic icecaps as evidence against global warming. There is a very basic principle in ecology (a subject you would be familiar with if you had gone to college) called feedback. It appears in positive and negative forms. A form of positive feedback in terms of global warming is what we are seeing in the arctic. Ice, which reflects sunlight and radiant heat, is melting, therefore creating more area of ocean that will absorb, rather than reflect, the sun's rays. This makes the problem worse so that more ice melts, gives way to more water, etc. An example of negative feedback is directly linked to this. The melting ice in the arctic creates cooler water which is then taken by the gulf stream and the mid-Atlantic current straight to the tropics where it would cause climatic cooling. If you pay attention to single pieces of this puzzle, you will come out as ignorant and imbecilic as when you began. The only way to understand this issue is through a holistic approach, treating the entire globe as an ecosystem and managing it as such. And yes, climatic change has happened for millions of years, but never in the history of the planet has there been such a drastic change in climate. To get a better understanding of any human impact though, one must first throw off the chains of our own frontal-lobe induced species-centrism and have the decency to admit that we are animals, no better or worse than ants, bears, monkeys, lizards, and every other living thing that inhabits this planet. If the human race acknowledges this, then the real work can begin.

Posted on: 8/31/2008 2:46:21 AM

Posted By: charles engeb

Look I can see that you've been put up to this to try and discredit the global warming that is occurring rapidly and dangerously but what I really would like to know is who you are?Who paid you to put this drivel on the net?Why are you lying and deceiving people?It makes no sense.Another thing,how old are you?I bet you're at least 60.You dumbasses don't care cause you'll be dead before it kills off your grandchildren and great grandchildren.On one hand we have a guy who uses his celebrity to try and help save a civilization from itself,supported by facts and scientific data.Then theres you.You admit you have no facts and you're not a scientist but you say you're "smart" so we should all just listen to you?You and the sheep following you are pathetic.You should dismantle this web site and go back to clubbing baby seals or dumping toxic waste offshore or whatever the freak it is that you do.If we're lucky something bad will happen to your company and we won't have to have this filth on the net.

Posted on: 8/31/2008 12:31:02 AM

Posted By: Marc Jeric

See Internet for "Oregon Petition" and "Manhattan Resolution" where over 31,000 signatories, all scientists and professionals with 9,000 PhD's among them, state that the theory of man-made global warming is the biggest scam in the history of mankind.

Posted on: 8/30/2008 2:04:48 PM

Posted By: correct

hey john smith do some research im gonna laugh my ass off in 30 years when it gets colder and absolutely nothing happens in regards to global warming

Posted on: 8/30/2008 12:08:33 AM

Posted By: john smith

you guys are really stupid if you really believe we will survive for much longer without stopping it

Posted on: 8/28/2008 9:48:49 PM

Posted By: LARRY SPEAR

T H A N K Y O U ! ! ! 1] Global warming IS real. 2] Human endeavors MAY have contributed. Doing what we can is not unreasonable, but won't have a huge effect. If you don't believe this, consider how much smoke a forest fire or volcano puts out. 3] the SUN has a VARIABLE OUTPUT with many complex cycles. Nobody ever mentions this. 4] WE HAVE THE MEANS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM ! Nuke Iran, Iraq , etc. Start a NUCLEAR WINTER ! or Nuke a couple of volcanos, get the same result without the bad karma. . .

Posted on: 8/28/2008 7:56:33 PM

Posted By: Frank A. Ramczyf

Global warming is the biggest psuedo science scam ever. The summer of 2008 in the Northern Hemisphere is turning out to be one of the coolest on record. How do global warming alarmist explain that? The Farmer's Almanac is predicting a catastrophic colder than normal winter for 08/09. They have an accuracy rate of 80%. The National Weather Service is predicting a warmer than normal winter. We will see.

Posted on: 8/22/2008 12:31:35 AM

Posted By: Anonymous

Why are MORONS so ignorant about such an important and dangerous subject. I agree with the previous poster that you people have no real facts to prove your theory. How do you prove that there is NO global warming?.......Well?...No I didn't think you had an answer. Why do ignorant people like you believe the disinformation campaigns. You either have no sense of protection of humanity, or you have a serious death-wish, or you are just plain stupid. I presume you are Americans because about 50% of Americans don't care or don't believe in global warming. Which is half of the global problem. I am one of the Americans who has motivation to do something about this crisis. Truly it is people like you who cause global warming because of your ignorance. Even though the vast majority of us contribute, it is you who causes it. I don't see how you can continue on not believing when there are FACTS. And the definition of fact is as follows: something that actually exists; reality; truth. This is reality. You can't go on pretending there is no global warming. It is a major problem, and still loads of people carry on with their regular routines. They do not even try to be environmentally friendly. Even if you don't believe, you can still make changes to environmentally friendly things because they usually help reduce the amount of money you pay for bills and necessaries. It is just common sense. So THINK! The world frowns upon people like you. There are disinformation campaigns out there whose goals are similar to yours. I wouldn't know what their, or your motives are because I am helping people solve global warming. But either you are a misinformed or you are part of a disinformation caimpaign. These disinformation caimpaigns try to make people think that global warming is a theory, and make them think that the theory is disputed. But it is not a theory. It is not disputed. There are one hundered some official scientific documents on the subject of global warming. And not one of them disagrees. It is FACT. Reality. Actually exsists. And that truth is going to wipe out the human race if we don't do something major. And that is the fact you people do not accept and that is your fault. Global Warming is not a political issue so much as a moral issue. And you obviously have no morals whatsoever to keep contributing even when not contributing is cheaper. But you seem intent on destroying the world. You people will be brought to justice someday for your ignorance. But until that day, you will be the one's suffering for your ignorance, not us.

Posted on: 8/20/2008 10:53:32 PM

Posted By: Allie Van Wagoner

I have just about the same opinions on the matter of global warming. You can read my comments and a recent article that I think you'll find interesting entitled Global Hypocrisy, I Mean Warming. Check out the link to the post at: http://www.screweduptexan.com/2008/08/global-hypocrisy-i-mean-warming.html Just a side note...I dont remember where I got the pic that I used for the post, just saw it thought it was awesome. Would give due credit if I could remember where I got it from!

Posted on: 8/15/2008 11:54:42 PM

Posted By: gary e. hrnicek, md

Is it just me, or has Science Mag. stopped printing a single syllable about the growing and cooling Antarctic ice cap the past 2-3 years? It can't be "global" if only half the globe. Also, note the latest from Australian scientists on Capt. Cook's climate studies of 1830s. Worth reading.

Posted on: 8/12/2008 9:44:32 AM

Posted By: Chris A.

Most idiotic website I've seen in a long time... Republicans... *SIGH*

Posted on: 8/11/2008 8:21:33 PM

Posted By: Clint Meneely

Good web site, but nobody accomplished anything by saying that the problem doesn't exist. I too, don't believe that human activity has much effect on global temperatures - just look at the other, uncontrolable sources of greenhouse gases! However, If you want to reduce the human component (and make the atmosphere easier to breath, we have to figure out a way to burn coal cleanly. Over then next decade, the potential output of China and India coal burning power generation alone will swamp the little greenhouse gas savings we can produce in the US, and they aren't going to do anything about it unless we can show them ways to burn coal cleanly in such a way that it also saves them money. Just look at the problems China is having with pollution at the Olympics right now and multiply that by 20 or more. The solution has to be something everyone wants to do, and not for idealistic reasons. Either that,or come up with a cheap and simple pocket fusion reactor

Posted on: 8/11/2008 3:39:36 PM

Posted By: Robert Peterson

Great Web Site! I would like to say to all of you that clearly understand that Global Warming (Climate Change) is a myth....... Thank heavens for you!!! Please spread the word... We will get attacked by the alarmists and they will question our data.....even our spelling as I've seen in some of the posts.... Even without any data, we win the debate.... These freaks have been pushing the end of the world for decades.....the fact that they actually convince so many morons is alarming but not surprising...... In the past we had the ozone layer to worry about....acid rain....the rain forests being slashed and burned......global cooling.....global warming....and now climate change.... Climate change is a very smart tactic b/c no matter what weather event occurs, Al Gore will say "I told you so!" These people are nuts and freaking stupid and crazy..... They are also insane to think that even if their premise was correct.....about CO2 and all.......that they could actually help the situation... Think about it....I don't know what the population of the U.S. will be in 50 years but it will likely be appoaching 380-400 million people....Globally the population will grow as well.... More CO2 is just a fact and many believe that more Co2 is not even a problem This is the bull they are pushing...if more co2 does not devastate the earth, their entire argument goes down the drain... More people means more cars, more factories, more flights, more energy used..... When I exhale, I breathe out CO2.....I guess we should all hold our breath..... Global Warming does not exist...there is no hole in the ozone layer, acid rain will not kill us.......the rainforests are still there.... climate always changes....that's the idea...... When it stops changing, then we should be worried.... All these greenies should try a mass suicide to lower their CO2 footprint.....and save the rest of us people who aren't brainwashed by a man who is so pathetic, he couldn't win his home state in a National election..... and one more for you idiots.... every second that goes by simply proves how wrong you are......the oceans are not rising.....the earth is just fine...in fact... here in North Carolina, the temperature is right about the historical average... 88 degrees in August...how alarming!!!

Posted on: 8/8/2008 12:41:50 PM

Posted By: Steve Buckingham

Before we totally uproot our economy on the basis of computer models, shouldn't we verify that they can actually predict something accurately? It would be very easy to put the data in from 20 years ago and see if they accurately "predict" what has happened over the last 20 years. There's a reason you haven't seen an article about this; they don't work. Until someone can do that I will not join the alarmism. I also remember all of the warnings about a "new ice age" in the 70's, and it was the exact same people who are screaming "global warming" now. We vastly exaggerate our impact on the planet. Pollution absolutely should be minimized, but CO2 is NOT a pollutant. 1000 years ago the Vikings were farming on Greenland, the British were growing grapes, and there are few recorded major storms and no major plagues. This is also when the Traitor's Gate at the Tower of London was built, and if the sea level was substantially higher they must have had submarines to bring in the traitors. Steve Buckingham

Posted on: 8/7/2008 5:24:31 PM

Posted By: Steven Ray

I applaud your effort to inject some common sense into this topic. I’ve done quite a bit of personal research and have found it to be a highly emotionally charged issue, and as such a lot of times the science suffers in favor of bias or political affiliations. Part of the problem is the “true believers” in anthropogenic global warming (or climate change) don’t even know what the skeptics are skeptical about. I don’t think anyone with any real intelligence or ability to read denies that there has been a general warming trend for roughly 40 years. Flagship statements like “global warming is real” are ridiculous. Of course it is – and so is global cooling. This has been going on for millions of years and we have no reason to believe it will stop now. There are several things that are pretty much undisputed in all of this though. 1.) Warming trends begin several hundred to 1000 years before a significant increase in atmospheric CO2 concentration. 2.) Cooling trends begin several hundred to several thousand years before a significant decrease in atmospheric CO2 concentration. 3.) During a warming trend atmospheric CO2 concentration and global temperature occur in a tight correlation. 4.) Some activities in which mankind engages release CO2 and other greenhouse gases into the air – this would not occur without humans on the planet. 5.) Oceans release more CO2 as they warm. 6.) Air holds more water vapor as its temperature increases. 7.) CO2, water vapor, methane, and other gases do absorb certain wavelengths of radiation, effectively trapping heat from the sun in our atmosphere. The scam is not that the climate is changing, nor is the scam that greenhouse gases trap heat radiating back up from earth. The scam isn’t even that humans are responsible for some of the gases which increase the atmosphere’s ability to retain heat. The scam is that human activity is the driving cause behind a perceived increased intensity and rapid change in the climate. Water vapor is orders of magnitude better at trapping heat than CO2, yet water vapor is largely ignored in the models because they say it’s being continually expelled and replaced and therefore has no measurable impact. However, since we know that air does hold more water vapor at higher temperatures I can’t see how you can eliminate water vapor from the equation. All greenhouse gases have an insulating effect on the earth. They produce no heat; they merely trap the heat that is moving away from the earth back up into the atmosphere and eventually space. CO2 absorbs a fairly narrow bandwidth of radiation, but it is very effective. However, the CO2 concentration on earth is (and has been for some time) higher than the amount needed to absorb nearly all of the radiation at that wavelength. In other words adding more CO2 to the atmosphere will not significantly increase the ability of the atmosphere to retain heat because the CO2 currently in the atmosphere absorbs almost all the energy radiating up from earth that is possible to be absorbed at that wavelength. Think of it this way. Each unit (let’s use 10 parts per million) of concentration of CO2 is like a thin blanket. The first few blankets have much more impact at retaining heat than subsequent blankets do because nearly all of the heat that can be retained already is retained. Throwing another 15 blankets on top will increase the amount of heat trapped by a miniscule amount, but it’s not significant. Mankind produces less than 1% of greenhouse gases – the rest occur naturally. How can man be the driving force of climate change when “natural” means produce 99 times as much of the insulating molecules as man? Other planets in the solar system also show signs of warming, which pretty much means at least one factor other than man must be a major reason for global warming. Recently scientists have stated that the sun’s radiance could be responsible for roughly 25% of the global warming. However, they didn’t take into account how much additional CO2 was released from the ocean due to the sun in this most recent warming trend, nor did they figure in how much more water vapor the air could hold as a result of that increased radiance from the sun. Again, that was just radiance taken into account, not magnetic disturbances, “solar wind,” or other sun-related influences on earth. As has been pointed out many times, since warming trends start *before* an increase in atmospheric CO2, that molecule cannot possibly be the initiating or driving force for a warming period. It could, however, have a feedback effect. As the temperature rises, more CO2 is released, and as more CO2 is released, more heat is trapped which raises the temperature. However, this could only occur until maximum heat trapping capability is reached by CO2. The ice cap around the north pole have receded. However, the ice area around the southern pole has increased in the last 30 years. If anything that may just indicate the variation in tilt on the axis that the earth has in cycles. I’m not for extinction of any species, but this planet has seen millions of species wiped out in its history. If it is the polar bears’ time to go it is sad, but why is that mankind’s fault? We certainly didn’t wipe out the dinosaurs, but they’re gone anyway. Even if you read the IPCC 4th assessment report you’ll get a different picture than you’ll hear from the die hard “oil is killing our planet” folks. For most of the categories involving warming the IPCC conclusion is that warming is very likely to almost certain. Human influence was judged to be “more likely than not” (more than 50%) to likely in most of the areas. However, there is no attempt to describe what the extent of the human impact is or would be. So basically they are saying it’s very likely that there will be warming in the near future, man probably plays a part in it, but they aren’t sure to what extent man is having or will have an impact. That’s not quite the same as the fear mongering headlines we get to endure constantly. The bottom line is I agree with the website. Our time, money, and energy will be far better spent in preparation for coming changes than in jousting with windmills and trying to alter the climate. We should still clean up after ourselves and deal with real local pollution issues, but if we handle the stuff in our own backyards appropriately the bigger picture will take care of itself. Just a parting question for the pro AGW crowd: If the earth starts on an obvious cooling cycle soon will you advocate burning of fossil fuels to drive up CO2 concentrations and keep the planet from freezing? P.S. Sorry for the book y'all. I just can't stop once I get started sometimes.

Posted on: 8/6/2008 3:55:24 PM

Posted By: joe smith

Check out Surfacestations.org it is a very enlightening site that has documented just how inaccurate our own ability to collect accurate data is. If we can not enter accurate data into these climate models then how can we arrive at an accurate conclusion? Without name calling or ignorance would someone please tell me why Mars is warming? By the way, when are we going to start regulating volcanic emissions?

Posted on: 8/5/2008 9:38:02 PM

Posted By: Randy

the ENTIRE NORTH POLE MELTING and the increased frequency of natural disasters causing suffering to millions of people, then you are a selfish moron devoid of any morals or humanity whatsoever. Posted on: 8/2/2008 9:14:36 PM Um, NASA has documented the melting of polar caps on other bodies in the solar system, ie Mars and Uranus. Did we cause those as well. Global warming is happening and mankind is not responsible for it.

Posted on: 8/4/2008 2:25:00 PM

Posted By: Nicholas O'Dell

After school kids in the UK were made to watch Algore's "An Inconvenient Truth," outraged parents said that their children were lying awake at night crying about drowning polar bears and thought they themselves would be drowned by rising seas. A group of parents threatent to sue the government for inculcating their children with political dogma. As a result, Lord Monckton commissioned a scientific panel to study Gore's movie. This is their report: http://scienceandpublicitypolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html

Posted on: 8/4/2008 12:11:48 PM

Posted By: the green guy

Global Warming SOLUTiON: Every 40 minutes, enough sunlight hits the earth to power the planet for one year. Build solar farms all over the world. Put them on one grid. PROBLEM SOLVED. WOOPS! THE AXiS of EViL, " Governments, Corporations and Wacky Religious Countries will not COOPERATE to solve it. WE ARE NOW ALL BROTHERS & SiSTERS. ONE HUMANiTY. ONE TRiBE that originated out of AFRiCA. ( Study genetic science ) If we don't cooperate globally, we are all doomed anyway.

Posted on: 8/4/2008 6:21:27 AM

Posted By: The GREEN GUY

Look, the REAL SCAMS: 8.5 Billion no bid Haliburton contract, now they hide their headquarters in DUBAi. No taxes, no liability...Now that's PATRiOTiSM! Ethanol and Farm Subsidies The WMD's that never existed Oil Depletion Allowances ENRON Energy policy formed by Cheney and the Oil companies Untaxed Gulf of Mexico Oil Bailing out Bear Stearns, Citibank, Freddie Mac & Freddie mae for billions , while Americans get $300 to $1200 a peice. Opening the 2% discount window to all the above. Why not ALL Americans instead? Ah yes...too big to fail.... Most anti global warming propoganda originates from oil interests and dillusional nut cases ignoring science.. Should't we conserve the environment anyway my "conservative ," friends? Just in case? Isn't that why most pray and go to church? jUST IN CASE GOD SENDS THEM to hell? Pre emptive war, but not pre emptive environmentalism? Economic collapse? It hasn't happened in Japan and Europe where they are way ahead of us in environmental initiatives. The subsidies of the rich, the corporations, etc. has already sent us into economic collapse if you've been paying attention these last 8 years. Plummeting dollar, sky high gas and oil, meltdown of housing & mortgages. These lunatics in charge ( the corporations and the BUSHiES) Could not of destroyed things better if they planned all of this. 3 biggest all time spenders? Reagan, Bush I and Bush II Current US deficit: 9.5 Trillion Dollars. WE ARE ALREADY Bankrupt by the government being run by the Oil boys the last 8 years. WAKE UP! THE Biggest 3 cons...The REAL AXiS of evil? Governments, Corporations & Religion..The true destroyers of our planet...While we pip squeaks argue over gay rights, global warming, immigration, blah, blah, blah, those on top have RAPED us all of our savings, our jobs, our civil rights, our Constitution, our , our kids and grandkids futures and yes, our clean air and water. The average American has 148 toxins swimming in their blood streams as we speak. The EPA has not banned a single toxin since 1989. WAKE UP TO REALiTY and the TRUTH. Why so much cancer? Why do over 40 countries have their people living longer than US citizens? We have become a third world dumping ground for poor quality, Chinese lead laced products because WALMART and the corporations have the power...NOT, WE the PEOPLE!" IF , " WE THE PEOPLE," don't take our government back, none of our BS debating matters. THE TYRANTS, have already won...destroying all in their paths in the process. The founding Fathers would not of put up with the Tyranny of the last 8 years.....

Posted on: 8/4/2008 5:55:01 AM

Posted By: Bird Thompson

This is total bullshit. Humans are causing global warming & humans must stop it. The FACTS are alarming & so is this website

Posted on: 8/3/2008 10:42:50 PM

Posted By: Vennie Anderson

Christine's post on 6/4 hit the nail on the head in my opinion. While it's unfortunate (for humans), I believe we've come past the point of no return regarding the fouling of oceans, the descimation of rain forests, the desertification of much previously habitable areas of the planet, and other human-induced changes to the earth as we have known it during the lifespan of humankind. While we can still take measures to extend the lifespan of our species, such as improving air and water quality for many, eventually our greed will outstrip our other efforts. It makes me feel a bit sad, but I believe it's inevitable. We hear a lot about "saving the Earth". While this may seem a laudable sentiment, the truth is the Earth doesn't require us to "save" it. The planet will take care of itself as it has since it was formed. If the drastic reduction or even elimination of our species is necessary to preserve the planet and restore balance so other life forms can continue and evolve, then that is what will happen. From geologic and evolutionary standpoints, we are a blink on the timescale. Our big brains and strong sense of hubris have convinced us that we are the epitome of life on earth. There are many who believe we were created by a supreme being and given the right to dominate (read that "use") the rest of the earth, which we pridefully refer to as "our" environment. Even most of those who fully accept the logic of eons of evolution, with or without an intelligent creator in on it at the beginning, still place human beings at the pinnacle of the evolutionary scale. Cynical? Perhaps. But I have come to feel resigned and even grateful that I have no grandchildren. The world in 50 years is not likely to be a healthy, happy place for human beings to inhabit. Many parts of it are already overcrowded, struggling with polluted air and water, and shortages of food and other necessities. In a hundred years the standard of living of what is left of humankind could be reduced to stone-age subsistence. Maybe it will take longer than that. Maybe not as long. I won't live to see it. I'm OK with that, glad of it actually. Oh, I still do my bit to rearrange the deck chairs--recycling, driving a Prius, and so forth, primarily because it eases my conscience a little. But any hope of our being able to salvage for much longer the standard of living we enjoy in the Western world no longer exists for me. We set the pace, and as the Third World strives to catch up, all of us are going to go down with the ship eventually.

Posted on: 8/3/2008 6:39:37 AM

Posted By: Paul Botsford

I'm sorry, but you're just wrong. There is no legitimate scientific organization in the WORLD that does not believe global warming is being caused by humans at an extremely unnatural rate. The idea that if we "turned off all our power, never started a car ever again and stayed right where we are this very minute sitting on the ground eating worms in the dark while using leaves instead of toilet paper" global warming would still happen to the extent it has in the last 50-100 years is so ludicrous and laughable it's really not worth the time I'm taking to type this comment. If you seriously care more about your taxes than the ENTIRE NORTH POLE MELTING and the increased frequency of natural disasters causing suffering to millions of people, then you are a selfish moron devoid of any morals or humanity whatsoever.

Posted on: 8/2/2008 9:14:36 PM

Posted By: J-Dub

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Posted on: 7/30/2008 11:46:46 AM

Posted By: L Joyce

I think we all agree the climate is changing. I do believe it is part of a natural cycle that has been happening since the world began. Can we stop it - I think not. We can make our current environment more comfortable, however, by reducing our pollution. Comfortable? That means clean water and food, productive land, and lives free of chemical induced disease, etc. (As much as possible.) As individuals, let's not dump chemicals into the watershed or throw trash into landfills. Recycling, scrubbing emissions - these are all good and should be done just to keep our space beautiful and productive. But, as others have said, beware the uninformed politicians looking for a soapbox that will generate $$$. Politicians need a platform and the "hot" topic du jour is global warming. Have they ignored the scientists? Absolutely. (Can we take back the Nobel Prize?) Are they demonstrating, in their lifestyle, how to reduce pollution? (The inconvenient truth for the Gores is that they didn't read the book.) This is the familiar "Walk the Talk" scenario. So, here is the fear as stated many times in the comments posted here. We could be facing some incredible taxes; we are already facing fuel prices that are not only highly inflated but without need to be so high. Here is the rub. Do we drill in Alaska? The question is, how do we sustain transportation (checked out airline prices or shipping costs recently?) that moves our country's goods and services, on anything BUT fossil fuels in the near future. We can't because we don't have the infrastructure to support it. Another inconvenient truth. Building a new infrastructure across the nation that is not dependent upon fossil fuels takes time. Should we start? Absolutely - give someone a prize for inventing a really viable alternative that allows the cogs of industry to continue to turn and support our economy. In the meantime, a decade at the least, we need oil and we have the resources here in the USA. But, we also need refineries for the oil or states like Alaska who produce huge amounts of oil, also pay the highest gas prices. Hmmmm another conundrum. We need a short term solution that provides a bridge to the long term solution. I don't have the answers, but I'm glad so many others are thinking. Let's not fight about it - let's use some great thinking to come up with some ways to improve our quality of life. We can argue until gas prices hit $10/gallon but then what? The truth is, what needs to change is how we manage our politicians - you don't like 'em, vote 'em out!!! Tell them the sad truth that they must represent the people, not $$$special interest groups$$$. Hold them accountable - that's the foundation of our free society. Sounds naive, maybe so, but we can't give up!! Let's bring back POWER TO THE PEOPLE. Yep, I'm leaving my rose-colored glasses firmly in place.

Posted on: 7/30/2008 10:23:41 AM

Posted By: Mike H.

Hypocrisy. Yes, it's everywhere. Even this web site. GOD'S ME$$, AMERICA!

Posted on: 7/30/2008 8:52:24 AM

Posted By: Robert May

It a religion. It has a creation story (big bang), a doomsday story (Global Warming) and a Savior (Al Gore). The adherents worship at the Great Green Church of Global Warming and believe in a structured set of Dicta Sanctorum. They will brook no dissention in their ranks and regularly accuse anyone who questions their dogma with being in league with the Devil (Exxon/Big Oil). The deniers are promptly excommunicated and drummed out of the Church. I, for one, refuse to be forced to worship in their church.

Posted on: 7/28/2008 4:13:30 PM

Posted By: Fred H

If God wanted us to stop global warming he would have given us solar panels and hybrids. But He didn't give us that, LIBERALS did! God gave us coal and oil and nucular power to burn because God's breath is strong enough to blow away more pollution then the liberal windmill generators can. And those wind things are stupid because they don't spin fast enough to blow anything away! Smog will always be there like it or not! Catalytic converters don't make LA cleaner! But they make cars S L O W. When I was your age we didn't have computers and catalytic converters and things were just fine. Now everything costs more because of global warming laws and unions. But in my day things were cheap and nobody went around saying oil was running out. But the kooks in the EPA want to make money so they LIE and use FEAR to take our minds of whats really going on and that the de-Christianizing of the world. Thats what greenies, liberals, satanists and islamics have in common! Dont you see what they are trying to do?

Posted on: 7/28/2008 2:31:27 AM

Posted By: Actually Thinks

I'm glad you don't believe in global warming because it's good to see ignorance like this is alive and kicking! A whole website of ignorance! Awesome! Keep it up because it's stupid people like you who make the Darwin Award's list every year. I recommend you all buy property near the coast and don't get insurance for it.

Posted on: 7/28/2008 1:07:49 AM

Posted By: Mike Mitchell

I'm glad that Ryne posted here. It is VERY typical of what people of science and logic are up against. For instance, Ryne says: "You have to accually consider the amount of CO2 that we discharge into our atmosphere." Ok Ryne, have YOU actually considered the amount of CO2 that we discharge? Well, it's obvious to me that you actually haven't and are parroting some Oprah Winfrey talking point. In fact, the aount that humans add is MINESCULE! Ryne, did you know that just termites by themselves emit more greenhouse gas into the atmosphere than humans burning fossil fuel. the organism in wetlands by themselves emit more than we do! I'm not trying to put you down but you MUST try to examine where you got your crazy ideas from. CO2 is NOT pollution, it is a gas of life. Plants are already documented to be growing more quickly now than they did just 50 years ago because of the extra CO2; most of which is from the ocean and micro-organisms - NOT US. There is not ONE convnincing piece of scientific evidence that CO2 ~causes~ global warming - let alone the TINY amount we add. The evidence says the opposite. We've been getting cooler in the last ten years while CO2 continues to increase. That disproves Al Gore. The Vostok ice core records show that CO2 always increases AFTER the climate begins to warm - NOT BEFORE. The IPCC models cannot reconcile eaither of those facts but people faithful to Al Gore just keep babbling nonsense about pollution and saving the planet. The planet will be just fine - it's been through a LOT worse in the billions of years it's been here than anything we can dish out. It's almost a joke thinking CO2 hurts the planet - it's been as much as 15 times higher ot more millions of years ago. And without CO2 - we'd all be DEAD! Think about that Ryne..

Posted on: 7/27/2008 5:14:27 PM

Posted By: Charles S. Opalek, PE

I have written a book entitled A Convenient Fabrication. It is the definitive response to the errors and omissions of Al Gore's book An Inconvenient Truth. For more information please visit my website www.aconvenientfabrication.com. Here are the facts on CO2 global warming: a) On 3 other ocassions within the last 200 years, CO2 levels have been higher than they are today. (Beck 2007) b) CO2 levels have been up to 20 times higher within the last 600,000,000 years, while the Earth's temperature has remained within a stable 10-degC band. We are presently about 9% off the bottom of this band right now. (Berner 2001. Scotese 2001) c) 95% of all CO2 emissions are from natural sources. d) 99.999% of all water vapor comes from natural sources. e) Water vapor by a factor of 26 has more of a Spectral Absorption bandwidth or global warming effect than does CO2. f) After considering the effects of CH4, N2O, and CFCs, man's global warming contribution works out to be 0.28%; Nature's is 99.72% g) Ice core data reveals that the temperature increases come first by about 800 years before the CO2 increases. Our climate is not controlled by the miniscule changes in atmospheric composition. It is primarily dictated by the amount of low level clouds generated by increased condensation nuclei, caused by increased cosmic ray flux penetration, caused by modulation of the Earth's magnetosphere, caused by changing solar wind and mass particled ejections, caused by a change in the rotational force, caused by the varying center of mass of the solar system, driven primarily by the much heavier Jovian planets. In watts/square meter, this global cooling effect is about 20 times the global warming effect from CO2 chnages. Global warming also marches to the beat of varying solar irradiance, not CO2 concentration. Charles S. Opalek, PE

Posted on: 7/26/2008 10:39:33 AM

Posted By: Allen Anderson

The world now is relatively cold compared to millions of years ago when dinosaurs roamed the Earth. The Carbon Dioxide levels in the atmosphere were staggering but think what the planet looked like back then. The world was filled with overgrowing flora and life in general. Even those giant animals were able to find enough food to sustain themselves for millions of years. If you lived back then and someone would have mentioned polar ice caps you would have laughed in their face. Ha! What? The world did just fine with those kinds of Carbon Dioxide levels. It was a tropic, dinosaur filled paradise. And consider when you open a can or bottle of soda. Carbon Dioxide rises from the liquid as it warms. With this in mind and a little research done on the sun and its activity consider its current trend. It is becoming brighter, therefore the earth is warmer and with warming the carbon dioxide levels rise. The world climate changes. It is never constant. Simple physics prove that nothing is stable and everything is always in constant motion. To think that we mere humans can effect global climate is erroneous. The climate has never been stable and never will. Do the graphs shown by Global Warming advocates prove we are the cause of this warming trend? Yes, they do. Do the graphs of their rivals prove that man is not the cause of the warming trend? Yes, they do. What a cunundrum. This is a hypothetical situation. You go out on the town one afternoon and you notice that every blonde haired girl you see wears glasses, one after the other. At this point, you conclude that every blonde haired girl wears glasses. Are you right or wrong? The next blonde haired girl you see, in fact, is not wearing glasses. Now, you can conclude that your original assumption is completely wrong. The man-made global warming advocates will have you believe with their graphs and charts that we are the cause of this warming trend but all it takes, logically, is one or more reports to prove their theory wrong and it is no longer a valid theory. Viewing this topic from one side is only recieving half of the entire story. I can look at the graphs and charts shown by Global Warming advocates and be completely astounded at how ignorant I have been and then come across graphs and charts that, in fact, prove otherwise. The theory of man-made global warming will ever be a theory because there is so much explanation and scientific data that proves we are moving through a natural cycle. However, I am a "green" person and try to do my part to protect the environment but I am in complete distrust of the politicians and the media who previously brought us the "Y2K" scare and the "Avian Bird Flu" scare. Why trust the politicians, media, and credited experts with the "man-made gloabal warming" scare? I do not trust the local meteorologist with the "daily" weather forecast and I especially will not trust the forecast for the next hundreds of years. I do not understand why so many of my "environmental friedly" friends are falling so hard into this sham. It does not take long to do a little research and discover much more information disproving global warming rather than proving it. Although I worry about what we are doing to mother earth, I worry more when I consider why politics and the media are pushing "man-made" global warming against the overwhelming evidence. This is disturbing. If "man-made" global warming is such a scare and we must act now to prevent catastrophe why are people not rising against our destructive society and returning us to a simpler, more natural, existence in harmony with the world instead of proposing a "global tax"? I would love nothing better than to watch our current society, at least, meld itself in harmony with nature rather than overwhelm it but this does not seem to be the issue. A few powerful people want to make money. This is always what it comes to isn't it? I feel sorry for Al Gore and all the other "man-made" global warming advocates for falling so harshly into this sham. They push so hard for nothing and money. The world will do what it will when it wills and nothing we do will affect change.

Posted on: 7/25/2008 8:38:24 AM

Posted By: Bob Jones

I have some questions for the initiated: With Al Gore's reported rate of Greenland's glacier ice melting at 330 cubic kilometers per year, how many years will it take to melt all the ice on Greenland? With your answer, explain why he failed to report that number but instead reported that it equals twice the Alps glaciers melting every year. Why the deception? To win the Nobel Prize? To declare the debate over? Please explain. I'll post more questions later.

Posted on: 7/19/2008 1:31:42 PM

Posted By: Tom B.

Ryne, you say "The evidence is abundant", but what is abundant are theories not evidence. You are correct, though, that global warming is occurring, we know this because the dinosaurs are dead and there are no glaciers in Ohio, but we do NOT know that man has been instrumental in making this centuries old trend happen. We 'theorize' or 'postulate' and the media and the politicians have fixated on it as 'truth' when in fact there is no real evidence. Are the theories valid? Perhaps, but they are still only theories, and there appears to be a lot of evidence that is contrary, and quite a bit of controversy about the validity of the data that is used in showing the recent 'dramatic' changes in climate. Would love to see someone actually show solid evidence, but can't locate it on the web... Not sure at this point that we are NOT impacting our planet adversely, but the evidence does not support the claim at this point. Tom B.

Posted on: 6/11/2008 8:53:24 AM

Posted By: Larry Katz

We and politicians in both major parties are responsible for skyrocketing fuel, food and energy costs. Under the pretense of “saving the earth” we’ve allowed global warming alarmists to brainwash us into believing human behavior is primarily responsible for a miniscule increase in the earth’s temperature during the last century.

We’ve succumbed to propaganda claiming carbon dioxide, much of it produced by human exhalation, is responsible for melting glaziers, animal extinction and future flood tides. We refuse to challenge environmental hysterics by self-proclaimed experts like Al Gore.

The so-called “Green Agenda” is literally destroying America. We can’t build needed refineries; can’t use clean coal technology; can’t incorporate environ- mentally safe oil exploration in Alaska’s barren wasteland and can’t drill in the Gulf of Mexico. Meanwhile, Communist China is there and searching for oil 40 miles off our shore.

America seems so paralyzed by environmentalist hype we’re totally dependent on OPEC’s fickle Arab and other dictators who hate our country, living standard and Free Market Capitalism. How embarrassing it was seeing President Bush begging Saudi Arabia for more oil when we possess over 400 years of oil, gas and coal reserves held hostage by global warming protagonists.

Meanwhile, we’re subsidizing and encouraging manufacture of corn-based ethanol to power our vehicles while all food costs inflate and shortages occur. Ignored, is the fact that producing a gallon of ethanol requires more than a gallon of fossil fuel.

According to scientists and climatologists global temperature and weather, including hurricanes and tornadoes, are determined by the sun’s action and intensity, not carbon dioxide emissions. In fact, most experts agree the earth is undergoing a cooling stage that includes increasing polar ice formation.

Yes, it makes sense to encourage nuclear, solar and wind power, as well as, oceanic thermocline until America becomes energy self-sufficient by utilizing our own natural resources and technology but, we must reject this radical global warming con game before it destroys our nation.

Posted on: 6/8/2008 3:35:03 PM

Posted By: robert j. owen

this is just the latest,greatest attempt by the Western hating left-wingers to tax and destroy. Communism may be dead but a Man-free utopia can be just around the corner.Can anybody remember eugenics? What this shows is the blind obediance by the left.

Posted on: 6/6/2008 9:28:57 AM

Posted By: Ryne

The writer of this website does make a great point, but this reaction is the reaction i had about 4 years ago when i first accually payed attention to talk of global warming. I just don't see how one can deny that we speed up the earth's climate change. The evidence is abundant. I think that individuals who share this idea that global warming is an over reaction do not take into consideration the amount of humans that take part in polluting our earth. You have to accually consider the amount of CO2 that we discharge into our atmosphere. I think when people think about our effect on the planet in such a negative perspective, that they forget exactly how many of us call this planet our home and how many of us drive cars and how much energy each of us use on a daily basis. I'm not saying that we can stop global warming now that we have started it, because we won't.. But what i am saying is that denying its existance and our part in this process is foolish at best.

Posted on: 6/6/2008 12:16:20 AM

Posted By: Arthur Burke

The Global Warming Commies, being brainwashed by the media and the libs at the educational establishments couldn't recognize a warm tree to hug if they saw one. We've got a bunch of brainwashed nincompoops. It's the sunspot activity, bozos, warming the earth, just as the lack of energy will cool the earth. Big government is the only answer for these panzies. Global Warming, Global Cooling, Global Neutrality. It will all be there.

Posted on: 6/5/2008 12:43:21 AM

Posted By: Fred Hamble

Yes people focus on Gore...because he choose to make himself the center of attention. You don't get to have it both ways.

Yes, humans do have an impact on the environment, but GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE is a naturally occuring phenomenon that has been going on for BILLIONS OF YEARS.

Perhaps you are too young to remember scientists in the 70's telling all of us that we were, beyond a shadow of a doubt, going to enter another ice age by the end of the century.

30 years later, scientists are trying to tell us, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the earth is becomming super-heated.

The bottom line is that this is America...where we worship the dollar above all other things. And the basis of our economic system is FEAR and CONSUMPTION.

If you don't see it, then you should just go back out to pasture with the rest of the sheep!

Posted on: 6/4/2008 5:29:53 PM

Posted By: Bill O'Reilly

PS - I find it repulsive that all warming deniers focus on when discussing climate change is Al Gore and taxation, as if the issue wasn't much bigger than that. This skepticism becoming a polemnic against one guy who happened to open up the debate far more than anyone else has ever done reeks far more of personal distaste for a man and his personality than it seems to take into account the vast catalogue of evidence that speaks volumes about the nature of the issue, and starts to remind me of Ken Ham and his ridiculous attacks on Darwin's theories of evolution. It seems like Gore's success at communicating his viewpoint effectively has poked a beehive of envious and childlike peevishness that totally distracts from the issue at hand and which smacks more of culture war closed-mindedness than of any focus on scientific insight or ideas. If you have made up your mind the world is flat there will always be some evidence you can find (look! the horizon doesn't curve!) that will seemingly support you. Give it up already! If you fill a greenhouse with CO2 it heats up significantly more than one filled with normal atmosphere. It therefore follows that if you fill the atmosphere with CO2 it will retain more heat. It's basic science for highschoolers.

Posted on: 6/4/2008 5:09:13 PM

Posted By: Bill O'Reilly

Global warming is a direct result of not only our burning of fossil fuels but also of the huge amount of cows burping up untold tons of methane into the atmosphere. If you believe that the billions of tons of gases being released into the atmosphere on a daily basis have no effect on the world's weather patterns, I have a bridge to sell you. Perhaps it eases your conscience to think that we have no effect on climate change, but it wont help when the world experiences massive food shortages due to drought as is already happening (see: Australia, rice farming, drought).

Posted on: 6/4/2008 4:57:57 PM

Posted By: James

Hey SARA...way to be in illiterate malcontent.

I love lazy people who can't be bothered to click the link on the left side that says SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.

Way to go Sara...I'll trade literacy and ability to think for myself over inconclusive scientific evidence made into a movie by a guy who flies across the world in a private jet to make me feel guilty about using too much fuel.

Posted on: 6/4/2008 2:05:27 PM

Posted By: Rick

I stumbled across this site as a web ad, I suspect a lot of people who find it haven't seen or read much beyond Gore's movie. I wrote a fairly neutral introduction to the science behind climate change and how we may be at a cusp in our understanding of that CO2 does and what the Sun does. It's also a plea to scientists to restore a proper debate, so I hope it's useful to everyone. I call it Science, Method, Climatology, and Forgetting the Basics:

http://wermenh.com/climate/science.html

Posted on: 6/4/2008 2:03:11 PM

Posted By: Sarah

Okay, really? YOUR WEBSITE IS RIDICULOUS. It over simplifies everything and isn't backed by scientific data or a factual, realistic image of how fighting global warming would raise taxes. Would you rather not have a planet than pay taxes?

Even a fifteen year old can see your website is pure b.s.

Posted on: 6/4/2008 2:02:01 PM

Posted By: Abraham

Hi , We linked to your site. You can see the link on this page under Climate Alarmism:

http://www.energycenter.com/grav_f/links.html

Thank you, Abraham

Posted on: 6/4/2008 2:00:43 PM

Posted By: Michael

My take on the AGW issue is this:

In logic for an answer to a problem to be true it must be both necessary and sufficient.

All of science falls into this such as gravity.

However, CO2 does not satisfy the logic of the problem of climate change (AGW) as it is neither necessary nor is it sufficient to cause what we witness.

Posted on: 6/4/2008 2:00:04 PM

Posted By: Christina

While natural cycles of warming and cooling occur in predictable intervals throughout the history of this planet, the term "global warming" is slightly misleading. The current situation (commonly referred to in the media) refers to temperature variations that fluctuate beyond the normal parameters evidenced by scientific data. These temperature variations spike well above (and below) a normal range.

To complicate matters, a series of feedback loops magnify and accelerate natural phenomenon.

Example: polar ice melts, exposing dark land mass beneath (which attracts the sun's radiation rather than reflecting it), and the frozen tundra beneath heats up, melts, and causes further polar ice to melt. It's really quite simple.

Reliable, scientifically sound evidence from researchers around the globe have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that human activities since the industrial age have had more of an effect than any natural catastrophic event known to man. Moreover, new glacier samples reveal large shifts in global temperatures that occur in decades, not centuries.

If we are causing a natural cycle to accelerate, the Earth will carry on. Whether human beings will survive to complain about it, remains to be seen. We are already seeing the effects world wide. Changing weather patterns are causing unprecedented droughts in some areas, including the United States. These effects are tangible, measurable, and undeniable. Junk science does not cut the bill, my friend.

Diseases and bacteria flourish in warmer temperatures. Already, we are redrawing the boundaries for malaria and other mosquito born illnesses. Amphibians around the globe are dying off from a fungus that is spreading outward from the tropics, covering their skin and preventing them from regulating their water content.

Honey bees around the globe are dying in vast and alarming numbers, possibly linked to a new pathogen for which they have not had the time to adapt. This directly affects the human food supply! How much do you think it would cost to hand pollinate each crop, if it was even possible?

Ignorance is indeed bliss. It's time for the old guard to retire it's tired, blatantly selfish propaganda. Innovation is what this country is about. Our generation will carry on and do things better than the filthy energy hogs of the past. Not because it's a "guilt trip", or because we want to collapse OUR economy, but because we have to in order to survive. It's survival of the fittest.

Frankly, as far as I'm concerned, a few less ignorant primates running around (aka humans) is the best thing that can happen! They're just using up all my good air. Bring on global plagues (we're overdue anyway), rampant disease, and global starvation. Fuck it, right? You old farts won't be around long to really suffer from it anyway.

Regards, Reality

Posted on: 6/4/2008 1:58:36 PM

Posted By: Vinod

I came across it tdy and read your blog , reference materials etc with interest. I am an energy industry professional who has been in the business for nearly 3 decades, starting w/my graduate student days at the then newly created MIT Energy Laboratory( in response to $20 oil………)

A few months ago I wrote an article for energy industry professionals( in an industry publication) that may be of some relevance and interest to you. If you wish to skim thru it, you could go to www.Darandcompany.com and click on the section titled Thinking Strategically. The article is titled “It’s a coal and nuclear world after all”

Thanks for your site.

Posted on: 6/4/2008 1:57:01 PM

Posted By: Charles & Betty

It is very refreshing to read the article pointing out the "real facts" on Global Warming.

All we hear is the Al Gore version!

Thank you

Charles & Betty

Posted on: 6/4/2008 1:56:16 PM

Posted By: Douglas

I Have a web site with a page on the above, you may want to use the u-tube videos I placed on it. http://dsharford.com/id14.html

Posted on: 6/4/2008 1:54:21 PM

Posted By: Jim Peden

One might think the past 10 years of cooling would put an end to the global warming nonsense, but after all, you really can't cure stupid.

Posted on: 5/20/2008 10:27:29 PM

Posted By: frank russo

why do people think that the climate the way it was before this ridiculous global warming debate started is the ideal climate.should it ge this way and no other? if so,why?

Posted on: 5/20/2008 6:41:21 PM

Posted By: Tom Chastain

If carbon dioxide causes global warming, then lack of it should cause the planet to cool. Just prior to the last ice age the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere was much higher than it is now. At the end of the last ice age the CO2 concentration was much lower than it is now. For all those who believe we are causing global warming with our CO2 generation, how is it possible that the planet warmed up? The Co2 level was too low and we weren't here with our SUV's. I think there is something wrong with this picture. In fact I'll bet that the only place where CO2 has caused this planet to warm up is withing the confines of a computer climate model (written by the way to predict just such an outcome.)

Posted on: 5/20/2008 4:57:57 PM

Posted By: Karl

Thank you for being another voice of reason. It's to the point that some days I hope for an ice age just so I can say "told you so".

I think you know what I mean. A trillion dollars for light bulb changes? And other pointless green attemps that will do nothing but cost people extra money.

I am adding your site to my favorites and will check in for updates.

Thank you again,

Karl

Posted on: 5/20/2008 12:52:02 PM

Posted By: ben

great work man thx

Posted on: 5/19/2008 6:34:02 PM

Posted By: Calvin Grubbs

How long has it been since the glaciers were not melting

Posted on: 5/19/2008 12:29:05 AM

Posted By: jim hackman

In the late 70's they were telling of an ice age.Carter told us we were out of oil.In the 80's it was acid rain. The usa has cleaner water and air today than it had in the 60's. None of the warming people can admit that. Farm runoff has been reduced by over 50% in the last 20 years due directly to no till farming. Farmers today use a herbicide that does not show up in ground water on over 70% of us corn and soybean acres. In the 70's 80's there were over 50 that would show up. The global warming cool aid drinkers have put everything into one basket and feel this is their last chance to save the world before they die. I have been following this generation my whole life. this age group reached puberty from 1955- 1973 and the have been screwing things up ever since. The reason global warming theory took off so fast is because that age group is in power now. they are in politics ,the run our corpoations,they run our banks,universities and our news. We have about ten years until they will be checking into nursing homes.hillary ,mcaian, kennedy,specter,kerry,nancy,biden,carville,speilberg and gore will be asking nurses to turn the heat up in the cafeteria because their feet are cold. If you want to disprove global warming, you only have to look at the temperature records for the city you li ve in . Most us cities have records dating back 100 years. 90% of the mid sized cities east of the rockies heve gotten cooler or stayed the same in the past 48 years. If you calculate in heat islands it approaches 96%. Look at your local numbers they tell a story. For you in L.A. it is getting hotter but you are the exception. It scares me how easy people will believe what someone else tells them. 24 hours of reasearch on the net will change your mind. All temp records are there. All ocean temps are there dating back to the 70's By the way the pacific and the atlantic have not gotten warmer. What is funny is we have the only record of true ocean temperature. No other country cared untill the mid 80's The more you know the better we can shut these morons up. It is their last stand,a couple of cold years noboby will think of al gore without laughing. The usa produces about 12 billion bushels of corn if it were all made into ethanol it would total less than 35 billion gallons of fuel at todays consumption rate of 388 million gallons it would last about 65 days and 25% of the world would starve. Our leaders are idiots for getting us here,The truth and facts have been hidden and we are believing the lies god help us.I cant wait untill one of gores china made light bulbs breaks while I'm having dinner at a fine green leaning resturaunt and spills mercury on me and my children.That will be an interesting lawsuit.

Posted on: 5/18/2008 12:09:36 AM

Posted By: Michelle Smith

Global warming is the biggest farce. Cyclical climate change is the reality. We (humans) place way too much importance on our impact here. Conservation is always a good idea, but lets get real. The natural forces of the earth, ie floods, earthquakes, etc. We are affected by these forces, we do not cause or prevent them. Get real folks, remember Y2K?

Posted on: 5/16/2008 6:56:16 PM

Posted By: Carl J. Masker

I have lived on this good Earth for almost 60 years. I have lived in the same place my whole life. In those 6 decades I have seen very cold winters with little snow. Warmer winters with tons of snow, and I can remember summers so hot that they were warning people to stay inside. My point? Until now, I don't recall any knee jerk reaction to the world wide weather like there is now. Almost three decades ago scientists were thinking that we could be moving in to a little ice age - didn't happen. Now we're being warned that my polution of the atmosphere is going to cause the polar ice caps to melt. May or may not happen. The one thing the global community should be worried about and join forces to combat is pollution of the world's oceans! Something we are doing and seemingly, without a care! We are definitely having a direct impact on sea life - there are areas of the ocean floor where nothing can live because we are dumping our garbage into the oceans. Something we could stop by doing the right things with our garbage and municipal wastes. Yet, you don't hear a great global voice crying for us to cease and desist. Instead, we're worried about our carbon footprint. The Earth has been here for millenium and has cycled through many periods of great climactic change and man didn't have a thing to do with it. She's still here. I believe with all of my heart that we should be good stewards of the wonderful resources God has given us. If we did just that one thing, if we weren't so wasteful I believe we could have an impact on the world we leave our children, but impact global climate change? I think not.

Posted on: 5/16/2008 3:36:58 PM

Posted By: Anthony

I agree that Gore, like most politicians is a hypocrite and a lying tool. I also agree that the Earths climate has changed many times over millions of years.....BUT scientific studies prove that mankind is most definitley speeding things along with pollution.

Carbon was measured in the layers of ice at the poles, they dug down from the modern ice, to ice layers that have been frozen for thousands of years and the carbon levels in the deeper ice were very low, and the carbon levels the newer ice from the last 30 years are significnatly higher.

The oil companies pay scientists to dispute this so they can continue to pollute the earth and rake us over the coals with their high prices.

We may not be able to stop climate change,but we are certainly expediting our demise by polluting the earth.

Posted on: 5/14/2008 4:27:35 PM

Posted By: Carolyn

Hi, I found your website and I am so glad. I am really frustrated by all this global warming hysteria! Where I live (northeast MN) there are so many people who buy into this junk science. There are two guys from here that went to the North Pole to prove global warming. Recently I was in a local store and I said to someone “I don’t believe in global warming because the weather has been so cold” A lady overheard us and said “It’s climate change” “The weather is unstable” She was so rude when she said this to me! Just thought that I would share this with you. I will check back on this website often.

Posted on: 5/14/2008 4:26:41 PM

Posted By: Elizabeth M. Brinker

I have never found a more reasonable response to all the global warming hype. I agree, we need to adapt to our ever changing world, and stop trying to find a scape goat. Keep up the good work!!

Posted on: 5/13/2008 2:24:57 PM

Posted By: Steven Rogers

Hey Rob...if the car was an imaginary myth created by Al Gore you would look pretty stupid sprinting out to save your kid from a non-existent object.

Keep being a sheep!

Posted on: 5/13/2008 1:42:00 PM

Posted By: Rob Briody

I have never witnessed such a pathetically negative website in my life. Are you people all EMO? What I read here amounts to the car is rolling down the hill at your child but you won't, yell, run or otherwise try to save your own child because it is reality. Sorry, I will save my kid!!!

Posted on: 5/13/2008 12:46:27 PM

Posted By: Connie

It seems to me that common sense would dictate that the weather is cyclical. These changes probably have happened over hundreds of years. We have times when the temperatures warm for years and then they cool. Since records have only been kept for a couple of hundred years how can we know for sure what occured 300 - 500 years or more in the past. Since the weather man/woman can't tell us with complete accuracy what the weather will be next week how can anyone say for sure what is going on with this global warming bull.

Connie Schenectady NY

Posted on: 5/13/2008 12:40:43 PM

Posted By: gale combs

In 1801 William Herschel correlated climate change with sunspot activity. A century later E.W. Maunder pointed out a period of very low sunspot activity between 1620 and 1720 known as the Maunder minimum or the little ice age. Hypothesis #1: Politicians lie. Hypothesis #2: Scientists are human. Hypothesis #3: Some scientists will do what is needed to get funding or for other reasons. (Soviet scientist and acquired characteristics are inherited.) Hypothesis #4 A scientist in 1801 had no reason to lie about climate change. The evidence supports Herschel told the truth.

Posted on: 5/13/2008 12:18:35 PM

Posted By: Shirley Ploessl

Boy am I glad I have finally found someone that feels the same as I , it always has and it always will. Doesnt anyone read about the past planet history,or look at a moutain that has seashells in its rocks ? Thank You for stating the truths. Shirley Ploessl

Posted on: 5/12/2008 8:37:56 PM

Posted By: Jerry Schmidt

What I would like to know is: How does our side, "the global warming is a hoax side", ever get it's view- point listened to, when the media, the libs, and even McCain are on the band wagon? They have all the clout. It's also a shame that ethonal is so widely accepted. It's bad for our cars, decreases gas mileage, and is causin our food prices to dramatically increase. We need a MOVEMENT, with some rich folks to help fund it.

Posted on: 5/12/2008 4:54:19 PM

Posted By: John Hamer

Michael You say we do not know enough to start mucking around with the system. Probably true but we are already doing that with carbon emissions, habitat change and many other things that people are doing on the planet. I am a teacher. Who do you work for Michael. John

Posted on: 5/12/2008 4:31:43 PM

Posted By: Richard Wheeler

The cockroach will inherit the earth.

Posted on: 5/11/2008 11:50:10 PM

Posted By: corey murto

right on. i am so sick and tired of those damn dems talking about something that does not exist. they can take there global warning and shove it straight up their go green ass.

Posted on: 5/11/2008 9:35:35 PM

Posted By: Andy Waltz

It's quite simple really: CO2 magnifies the sun's rays, thus heating up the planet. The more fossilized carbon we release, the hotter the planet gets.

Posted on: 5/10/2008 10:56:10 PM

Posted By: David

As a retired 62 year old, I have lived through numerous alarmist movements, including "global cooling' during the 1970's, which have been driven by eco-alarmists (econitwits in my parlance). No matter how wrong they have been in the past, the power of the enviromental lobby and the timidity of politicians allow them to continue unabated. We are forced to pay $126/barrel for oil as the econitwits have prevented the use of our own robust sources of oil, coal and the construction of new nuclear power plants. I applaud your efforts but absent a new class of politicians, interested not in re-election and self-aggrandizement, I fear we are doomed to decline in our country.

David

Posted on: 5/10/2008 5:30:57 PM

Posted By: Armando Torres

The arguments against GW seem really emotional and anecdotal, and riteous. It seems the denial is out of fear. As far as scinetific evidence list. That's 12 persons out of thousands. And as someone said, science is not democratic. There are real measures that should be considered. For example: An 89 year old said that ice melting will reduce water level, using his age as justification. It does not change(much). The greater volume of ice, 4% cause floating, and elevation of the ice, but the weight pushes just as hard. We can ignore the increase change in volume of water as it warms. Point is, don't be angry, be open minded at least. Love first.

Posted on: 5/9/2008 10:01:35 PM

Posted By: Ric Werme

I stumbled across this site as a web ad, I suspect a lot of people who find it haven't seen or read much beyond Gore's movie. I wrote a fairly neutral introduction to the science behind climate change and how we may be at a cusp in our understanding of that CO2 does and what the Sun does. It's also a plea to scientists to restore a proper debate, so I hope it's useful to everyone. I call it Science, Method, Climatology, and Forgetting the Basics, see http://wermenh.com/climate/science.html

Posted on: 5/8/2008 8:44:17 PM

Posted By: Dominick

Hello

I visited your website and I agree 100% that this subject is a SCAM and a agenda for more taxes. I have been trying to find a way to contact al gore himself but it seems that all his websites do not allow you to do so. I wanted to know if you have any links to send directly to him.

Thanks Dominick

Posted on: 5/8/2008 10:25:20 AM

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Posted on: 5/6/2008 1:12:57 PM

Posted By: Fred Hamble

Hey Rob!

If you read as well as you typed you might have seen that tab on the side titled "SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE".

Literacy is your friend. Try spending some time with him instead of shooting off half-cocked while trying to be witty.

Posted on: 5/6/2008 10:14:06 AM

Posted By: Rob Rocklin

This is another site authored by someone who knows next to nothing about the subject. Using an argument like "the weather always changes" or "it was cold someplace" or "I hate Al Gore" or "this is some liberal conspiracy" is pretty juvenile. Why don't you have a serious discussion by reviewing published findings and presenting additional data that you have gathered.

Posted on: 5/5/2008 7:01:04 PM

Posted By: Brandon Riddle

"To think that we caused it, or can significantly change it, is the same as saying the world is flat." Sort of a naive statment. I might agree with you that we may not be able to change or stop it but to say that we didn't cause it is like saying man has no impact on the environment. How many species has man wiped out? How much pollution have we introduced into the atmosphere? Let's take an extreme theoretical example. Let's say man has occupied every square foot of earth. Do you think that wouldn't do some serious damage to the environment? The point being, you say we aren't the problem. Well, I think we are and to bury your head in the sand doesn't do any good. Maybe those who buy into this article are the one's who think the world is flat.

Posted on: 5/5/2008 10:14:21 AM

Posted By: Joseph Adami

I'm actually quite relieved to find your website. Relieved isn't the right word though; overjoyed is. Look, I live in Alaska AND work for an oil company (I know, I should slit my wrist right now). Funny thing though, before I worked in the oil industry, I worked in the mining industry; a profession rife with geologists. Almost every single on I spoke with over the years had the same opinion; earth's climate changes and the geologic record of billions of years trumps climatology data from the past 150. Thank YOU for helping to debunk the junk of the gloom and doom hypocracy promoted by the likes of Al Gore (by the way, I didn't know he was a scientist. Maybe if he'd done something USEFUL in school besides liberal arts he'd know better than to spout off the way he does!) Kudos to you and your site!

Posted on: 5/3/2008 7:45:51 PM

Posted By: John Mann

I think you're on the right track. What do you think of the explanation posted at http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Global-Warming-Forest ?

Posted on: 5/3/2008 2:44:20 PM

Posted By: Patrick

Here's how this all plays out... about 2012 it will become clear that none of the doom sayers were right. The planet is not in peril, polar bears are just fine and tidal waves haven't swallowed up Manhattan. So Al Gore and his gang of alarmists will declare victory, saying that their "bold leadership" saved the planet. More Nobel Prizes and it's on to worrying about Y3K or some other fictional silliness. GlobalWarmingInsanity.com

Posted on: 5/3/2008 2:32:51 PM

Posted By: Richard Kiser

Film: Lord of the Tree Ring Reviewed by Richard Kiser Sundunce film festival - Colorado 2008 It looks as though Al Gore will be headed back to the Red Carpet this year after the screening of his latest movie "Lord of the Tree Ring" in which he stars in the lead role portraying King Carbon Offset friend of the Eco Fairies. Al informed us "This is the role I was born to play". People need to understand the need to stop using electric blankets or they will watch the Tooth Fairy become extinct. He went on to say that Global Warming is going to have a tremendous effect on the production of Easter Eggs. You and I know and all the scientist have agreed that the amount of co2 the Easter Bunny releases creating eggs, especially the hollow chocolate ones by far surpasses the Kyoto Protocol. His solution to this is to create a new tradition called the Easter Worm. His reasoning is straight forward thinking - worms are eco friendly, they have a small carbon footprint and kids will put anything in their mouths and worms sort of look like chocolate. The movie shows how man is to blame for the future extinction of all our beloved fantasies. Take for instance the scene featuring Cupid, he is so overcome from heat exhaustion caused by AGW that he accidentally sits on his own quiver of arrows and dies furiously loving himself - not a pretty future and disturbing to watch. The hardest scene to understand and watch takes place at the North Pole. The Ice Cap has melted and Santa's Workshop is almost underwater. All the elves have been consumed by his reindeer, leaving scattered green curly toed booties everywhere on the last icesheet of the planet. The camera pans in just as a great white shark leaps from the water and swallows Santa whole. As the shark swims away all that is left of our memory of Santa is one black boot sticking out the side of the sharks mouth. King Carbon appears and looks straight into the camera and Says "Yes Virginia, there is no Santa Clause due to AGW." Very powerful. I also had the pleasure of speaking with the producer of this film, Leonardo DiCaprio. Leo told me that they filmed two different endings just in case the scientists made a mistake. He wouldn't tell me the exact ending but left a couple of tidbits to ponder. They were; flash freezing and death by frozen snot bubbles. Leo continued "We have to get used to the idea that Christmas is over!" "Right now, Al and I are working to reduce the U.S. carbon output by relocating Willie Wanka's chocolate factory to the Sahara". I said Leo, chocolate melts at 98 degrees, but this man is way smarter than me as he already had the answer - "That's simple, we will buy air-conditioning for the plant with the carbon offset taxes we extract from Americans." Brilliant! In my opinion they are the true Dynamic Duo! You really have to hand it to these guys - they have all the bases covered, maybe the Tampa Bay Devil Rays need to watch this and see how it's done. I would give this film two thumbs up but those very thumbs of man have created Global Warming. Instead I give it a must see before we all either burn up or freeze to death.

Posted on: 5/3/2008 2:11:10 PM

Posted By: Roger W. Wincek

Global warming is a lie and Algore is as usual a dumb horses Patootie. The reduced sun spot activity is causing global cooling and other freaks of nature like Al and the other UN communists!

Posted on: 5/3/2008 12:44:01 PM

Posted By: Lynn Callison

This comment is in response to Michael, Cocoa FL. First, let me say that I do believe in God, Jesus Christ, and the Bible 100%. Please do not have the audacity to try to impose a guilt trip of your own onto someone to be a "steward of the earth." I have read ALL of the Bible. I have read it in order from Genesis to Revelation. You need to read it yourself and see that there are events that are going to happen wether you believe they will or not. I love my God, my family, my planet, my country, and my freedom in that order. To think that we can control the weather-that's right, the weather, which is what all who think they can control climate boils down to, is idiotic. We can't even accurately predict the weather!!! Again, please do not USE God as a tool to further your belief. He deserves more.

Posted on: 5/2/2008 6:07:09 PM

Posted By: John C Kincy

All I can say is "Global Cooling" is now here! How are they going to explain that? I predict in five years all those silly "Ice Age" stories will be running again. Have you noticed lately that you don't hear the term "Global Warming"? It is now "Climate Change" because they know there is no warming. Well, as you have pointed out climate change is as inevitable as any other type of change. Keep up the good work and thanks!

Posted on: 5/2/2008 7:07:36 AM

Posted By: mike lyman

When Al Gore said the debate is over, he is just trying to stop debate because he cannot debate the issue. When is Al Gore going to debate this issue with a climatoligist? Not going on 60 minutes for a soft ball interview. ML Hawaii

Posted on: 5/1/2008 3:44:20 PM

Posted By: mike lyman

When Al Gore said the debate is over, he is just trying to stop debate because he cannot debate the issue. When is Al Gore going to debate this issue with a climatoligist? Not going on 60 minutes for a soft ball interview. ML Hawaii

Posted on: 5/1/2008 3:44:20 PM

Posted By: Cooper

Hey, I read your website and totally agree with you. In fact, I wrote a graduate essay not long ago on the propaganda surrounding AGW. If you’d like, your more than welcome to link to my article or re-publish it on your site (please link it back to mine if you decide to). But any how, I think it is important to get the word out on the crap going around.

-Cooper

http://intelligentessays.blogspot.com/2008/03/anthropogenic-global-warming-propaganda.html

Posted on: 5/1/2008 12:47:10 PM

Posted By: Scot

I've listened for decades to stories about rising sea levels. Ice shelfs are falling into the ocean and melting and yet every time I visit the coast it ain't even 1" higher. I double checked with the geolical society and they gave me the answer. Meteorites hitting Earth are being assimilated into the mass of the planet and causing it to grow thus displacing the water and giving the impression sea levels aren't increasing. The AGW individual who told me this once starred in the movie "The Lion King ' You may remember him. He was "Ed" the hyena. He used to chew on his back leg.

Posted on: 5/1/2008 11:31:02 AM

Posted By: Wiley Miller

Awesome!

Love this site, its about time!

Posted on: 4/30/2008 3:47:39 PM

Posted By: Joe Taylor

I agree, Man Made Global Warming is Fiction and so do over 19'000 scientists. Take a look www.freewebs.com/livfreeordie

Posted on: 4/30/2008 12:39:01 PM

Posted By: Christopher Sturm

Growing up with a dad who is a geophysicist and spent his entire professional career dealing with “Mother Earth”, I feel I am at an advantage on this topic. I can’t even remember how many family vacations my dad would pull over on the side of the road and lecture us on the geologic period in which the natural feature we were looking at were created and how it happened. What I learned from him and studying geology in college was that the planet we live on is dynamic. It will continue to change and reshape its environments long after mankind is gone.

Global warming IS real and it was just as real as it was millions of years ago before humans existed. This day in age, individuals have forgotten or have failed to be taught how to collect data and information for themselves. Right now… people rely on the internet, television, radio and other media outlets that have as much credibility as compulsive liar. Mark my words… in a few decades the focus of political concern will be something else that can be twisted to manipulate the general population. We are not just dealing with science of the earth… we are dealing with the history of irresponsible politics. This issue of global warming has more to do with money and power than the earth’s temperature.

Christopher Sturm

Posted on: 4/30/2008 10:52:51 AM

Posted By: William Wallace

There is an interesting graphic of the thermal conductivity of copper as a function of temperature at: http://arrowsmith410-598.asu.edu/Lectures/Lecture4/Boyd_TufteGospel.pdf This graph summarizes over 100 curves in the published literature, and there is little agreement among them. The experiments were conducted under controlled conditions, and results published in peer-reviewed journals. For folks who were never trained in science, never conducted an experiment, and don't know what "Occam's Razor" means, it may come as a surprise that science isn't nearly as neat and tidy as portrayed by Hollywood. For an idea of the uncertainties in the carbon cycle, see: http://www.grida.no/climate/vital/13.htm Just the UNCERTAINTY in the estimate for the terrestrial vegetation carbon sink is over ten times the total fossil fuel emissions.

Posted on: 4/30/2008 9:31:57 AM

Posted By: Deborah Leigh

Hi, I just want to commend you for such a great site! Thank you for taking the time to expose one of the greatest scams ever perpetrated. I remember the "Global Ice Age" of the '70s concocted by Al Gore as documented for posterity in "Back To The Future". The number of down filled jackets and vests must have skyrocketed. Thanks again! Keep up the great fight! Truth must prevail! Best Wishes, Deborah Leigh

Posted on: 4/29/2008 3:02:12 PM

Posted By: NVS

You go guy? - great site. I well remember the threat of another ice age. I wish I had the time to march on Al Gore's house as the climate cools down (predicted in an article written by a Russian and a Norwegian scientist). I will carry a sign that says something like this "Give back the Nobel Peace Prize Al, you got it under false pretenses." Want to join me? NVS

Posted on: 4/29/2008 3:01:09 PM

Posted By: Tim Murnahan

One, over my life I have learned that if somebody gets mad if you disagree with them they are most likely wrong. If it is a fact there can be little debate. Two, when did science become a voting process. Almost like a toothpaste commercial 9 out of ten scientists agree globale warming is a fact?? Three, I heard this the polar ice caps are melting the temperature is rising, trouble is we are talking about Mars!! We may be responsible for that as well we did sent a vehicle up there. (Oh, it was electric!) Finally, if the UN told me that the sky was blue I would not believe them. Hold onto your walet this is all about one issue!! $$$$ and destroying the US economy.

Posted on: 4/29/2008 9:33:35 AM

Posted By: Steve

I'd like to respond to Dave Lindorff's recent article "Global Warming Will Save America from the Right". I do think that Dave Lindorff oversimplifies the opposition to much of the prescribed policies to counter global warming. There are quite a number of professional scientists who do not deny the fact that the world is warming, but doubt how much human activity is responsible. No, they're not all conservatives. Socialist Claude Allegre is a PHD physicist at the Pasteur Institute in France. After he examined the latest computer models, he ceased believing man is the cause. What makes Dave think that resettled Republicans from future uninhabitable areas won't register to vote? They could well change the political landscape where they move if the scenario he describes comes true. The tone and title of his article makes him sound like a nasty, sanctimonious, miserable Stalinist. I will not stoop to his level and wish suffering on the good citizens of Baltimore should its harbor bring massive flooding and destruction. Steve

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:26:33 PM

Posted By: Steve Kalka

M Hunter, I'm with you. When is the mainstream media going to give more credence to those with opinions like yours and mine? There are plenty of professional scientists who are doubters. Today, I sent the letter below to the progressive Baltimore Chronicle and Sentinel. The article I responded to you can read on the link below. Steve Kalka

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:26:08 PM

Posted By: Pete

I understand that global changes have been happening for billions of years and do agree with you that more need to understand that. Whether or not we have a need, whether immediate or otherwise, I can not say for certain. You may be right or the greenies may be right. My point about your article however, is this. The people on this planet need to stop being led like sheep. You are absolutely correct in that statement. People need to understand that the independent thought process starts with each and every one of us. Stop believing everything that's in the news or beyond. Just because it's in print doesn't make for truth. Just because a political or private groups says it's so doesn't mean it is. What I'm saying is, we all need to learn to think independently. By that I don't mean become psychotic, pessimistic or believe there is a conspiracy around every corner, but begin truly thinking for ourselves and not being spoon fed by all of the bombarding information now coming our way in this new technological era of ours. Don't assume someone in the news is guilty right away because the news may be biased or the masses may think so. Don't automatically go with the flow because it's the easiest wagon to jump on. I mean, there's so much more I could embellish on this subject in my attempt to convey my thought here, but hopefully I have accomplished that with just this. Anyway, good to see someone who it seems to me that I could classify as a free and independent thinker. Kudos to you man. Pete

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:25:43 PM

Posted By: Michael

Trying to convince some people that global warming is real is almost like trying to convince an atheist that Jesus Christ died for their sins. They will be stuck in their ways. If you are a Christian and reading this, remember that God commands us to be good stewards of the earth. For those news articles that deny global warming, did you even dig a little deeper and to find who funded that scientific research of global warming deniers ? If you check into Exxon Mobil, they have funded billions in the past decades to deny global warming. Once again, some people are hard headed at convincing. People once believed the world was flat. We all have contributed to this global issue and it should turn into a human rights issue. The issue that it is our right to live in a sustainable planet. The creators of this website should be full of shame before THE CREATOR for this mockery of a website. Though I agree on one thing-- it may take a "guilt trip" for people to change their minds and their lifestyles to save this planet that God has given us to take care of. Michael Cocoa, Florida

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:25:19 PM

Posted By: Phillip

You say "To think that we caused it, or can significantly change it, is the same as saying the world is flat." EVERY scientific institution that has studied climate change concurs that humans are at least partially the cause. Are you then saying that these institutions would also conclude that the world is flat? Google some sources. Statements on Climate Change - Global Warming Art If you have credible institutional support for your opinion please send it. If you are just parroting some neocon/corporate talking points please nock it off. Haven't we had to deal with enough misleading propaganda? Phillip Noe Albany, OR

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:24:55 PM

Posted By: Donna

It is unfortunate that those who promote the Global Warming Crusade, as you call it, cannot see the forest for the trees. There is research that right now the globe is warming. Just as there was "scientific research in the "70's stating the Ice age was upon us. Most people tend to focus on a concept like reduce green house emissions but they fail to see the overlapping effects the so called "solutions" would create. I believe what you are trying to say is that we just don't know enough to definitively implement a solution. These proposed solutions currently would leave the tax payers of the United States financially devastated. Although the "democrats" like to think we would be taxing only the rich and "big business" , those increased taxes trickle down to us in the form of increased prices, loss of jobs and a decrease in the philanthropy provided to those in need. Those who are pushing for all of these reforms are not seeing the big picture. It is also sad to see people so vehemently angry at a dissenting opinion they feel the need to cure and name call. I do believe this is still the United States of America and as of today we still have Freedom of Speech. Although our constitution is taking a beating. but that is another issue. Donna from Tampa

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:24:31 PM

Posted By: Jim Eberle

You are a fu***** idiot. Like all you Republicans, you are just trying to show that mankind is not responsible for the warming so that you can argue against government regulations as one tool to be used to address the issue. Blame the warming on the sun, because even us evil Democrats can't regulate the energy output of something that could swallow 300,000 Earths. Jim Eberle

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:23:30 PM

Posted By: Jeffrey

I think you really need to look at the scientific evidence. All peer-reviewed papers now agree - and have for several years - that global warming is taking place, that it is going to have extreme effects and that it is being caused or at least greatly exacerbated by mankind. Almost the only scientists who disagree are those paid by Exxon-Mobil to produce non-peer-reviewed articles and claims. Mohamed, Jeffrey

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:22:38 PM

Posted By: Leah

Dear Mr Hunter, My name is Leah and i am 11 years old. I agree with you completely. Im doing a debate in science class about global warming. Im on your side. Thank you for all the info and will let you know if we win the debate or not. With the stuff i got i think we will win. I have some amazing stuff on my hands. Thank You, Leah

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:22:13 PM

Posted By: D.D.

D.D. Florida Point taken. The earth is warming - mostly due to natural processes, yes; but it is clearly accelerated by some of our interactions with the earth. I'm not sure if your position is anger at the hypocrisy of those promoting the cause ( yes, I know I drive an old Jeep around town - I'm just as bad) or is it the emerging products and economy that will have to be developed - and that it will likely mainly benefit the CEO's. Let's not pretend that there's nothing we can do to at least temper the rate of global warming. We know that carbon dioxide production can raise temperatures in localized areas. Just look at the heat dome that is generated over any city as carbon particles trap heat in addition to the amount produced by day to day electrical consumption. So what does it hurt to spend money developing new and cleaner technologies? Reduce, reuse, recycle. Forget that it's leftist cliché - it's simply good policy. The danger to humans lies in the accelerated change in climate. Weather patterns will shift worldwide. Once fertile areas will become dry and unfarmable. Islands and cultures will be lost to the sea. Of course we have to adapt - both as animals and as how we conduct ourselves. (don't call it evolving, or you lose the Creationists...) Part of the problem faced in the next two generations may be that humans have become so coddled by modern medicines and comforts that many will have lost the ability to simply survive. Populations will have to relocate. Infrastructures - supply and distribution - will have to be rebuilt. Availability of many necessities will be slowed. Specialized diets, compromised immune systems, sickness - all will be weeded out by climate change. Only the strong survive - it'll be one big genetic cleansing. We won't even need military force. Nor is it necessarily in society's best interest to show the masses the real big picture faced by the next 2 or 3 generations of humans - folks would panic worse than if they learned the truth about extraterrestrial life (whichever that is). It may be easier for the masses to digest an alien invasion wiping out most of the world's population than to realize that there are steps we can take to slow the onset of impending global climate change, which very well may drastically change the human genome by forcing the strong to survive. I kind of doubt if a power and profit driven elite care too much in teaching survival skills to our generation, though. As long as corporations can run rampant and keep dividing the poor from the wealthy; and as long as they continue to buy and consolidate the media; and as long as we allow our public education systems to slide; and as long as we allow our civil rights - particularly freedom of speech and assembly to be chipped away by a corporate driven government- we will not only lose the ability to learn and think critically, we may lose the right. And so what if it's a case of "what they don't know will kill them", right? It'll be less of a shock when the tsunami takes out the uninformed. Otherwise we still would have needed that military to keep the masses out of the politician's and oil barren's compounds... Just for the record: If the windmill comment was directed at Massachusetts, there are 2 very large windmills visible from my hometown of Cohasset - which is overrun with politicians and board members. Many more have popped up in high visibility locations since my last trip home. One of them provides the majority of the power for neighboring Hull High School. And I have not read or seen Mr Gore's book or film. I said and wrote it in the 90's and I'll say it again: We as humans are a failed species. We're here to witness the beginning of the end. Greed has divided us, uniquely as a species. Without a global shift in daily actions towards the earth, we are taking what is indeed a natural process of the earth warming and cooling and accelerating it to a rate that will likely alter the makeup of the earth's creatures - ourselves included.

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:21:43 PM

Posted By: Robert R. Reynolds

When the Kyoto Protocols were published I found it hard to believe they could have been conceived by rational people. My first thought was this is just bad geology, a total ignorance of, or disregard of paleoclimates in general and the Pleistocene cyclic glaciations in particular. The Mesozoic Era, from 245 to 65 million years ago was a much warmer climate than today. Life thrived in the sea and on land. Dinosaurs were dominant and their fossil remains have been found in the Arctic and Antarctic. Mammals appeared during this Era as did birds and flowering plants. If it wasn't for dinosaur predation there was adequate time for mammals to have developed in numbers of species and size. This did not happen until after dinosaurs became extinct 65 my before the present. Al Gore is very wrong to claim we are endangered by Global Warming. The success of most life in the Mesozoic should be proof of this. I feel we will be lucky if it wams a bit more. The alternative, a cooling off of about 10 degrees C, could plunge us into another 100,000 year ice age which would fit seamlessly with climate events of the last 1.7 million years in North America. Robert R Reynolds, Geologist, Retired

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:21:01 PM

Posted By: Steve Kalka

I'd like to respond to Dave Lindorff's recent article: "Global Warming Will Save America from the Right". I do think that Dave Lindorff oversimplifies the opposition to much of the prescribed policies to counter global warming. There are quite a number of professional scientists who do not deny the fact that the world is warming, but doubt how much human activity is responsible. No, they're not all conservatives. Socialist Claude Allegre is a PHD physicist at the Pasteur Institute in France. After he examined the latest computer models, he ceased believing man is the cause. His speculation about resettled right wingers being gerrymandered out of power seems farfetched. Can you imagine a transplanted right winger from Tucson visiting a Santa Monica real estate agent and saying, "Excuse me, I'm interested in living in a gated community of conservatives; someplace liberals aren't allowed in"? They'll more likely integrate with the existing population. Perhaps Mr. Lindorff would be happy if there were a political litmus test in determining who'd be allowed to vote. The tone and title of his article makes him sound like a sniveling, sanctimonious Stalinist. Steve Kalka East Rockaway, NY

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:17:42 PM

Posted By: Rick Hobson

I find it interesting how liberals are desperate for causes. The concept of global warming fits them like a glove...it provide excuses for them to argue against many things that they hate...such as freedom, prosperity, free enterprise, etc. What surprises me is I have yet to hear a liberal make the claim that the war in Iraq is causing global warming. How could they miss that propagandistic opportunity? Remember how the Iraq war was all about oil? What happened to that? Someone mentioned that back in the 70's, liberals and some "scientists" were concerned that we were heading into another ice age. Don't forget this one: They were almost in tears about the "coming population explosion". I remember reading about how they were predicting widespread food shortages even in the USA, riots, and so forth, because an out of control population was going to run us out of food and other resources, all by the year 2000 or before. As a result of that unfounded belief, the concepts of euthanasia and legal abortion became very popular with liberals...and still are, but the riots and food shortages just didn't happen. Now it's global warming. What next? Belly button lint? Rick Hobson Jasper GA

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:16:48 PM

Posted By: Pete

I understand that global changes have been happening for billions of years and do agree with you that more need to understand that. Whether or not we have a need, whether immediate or otherwise, I can not say for certain. You may be right or the greenies may be right. My point about your article however, is this. The people on this planet need to stop being led like sheep. You are absolutely correct in that statement. People need to understand that the independent thought process starts with each and every one of us. Stop believing everything that's in the news or beyond. Just because it's in print doesn't make for truth. Just because a political or private groups says it's so doesn't mean it is. What I'm saying is, we all need to learn to think independently. By that I don't mean become psychotic, pessimistic or believe there is a conspiracy around every corner, but begin truly thinking for ourselves and not being spoon fed by all of the bombarding information now coming our way in this new technological era of ours. Don't assume someone in the news is guilty right away because the news may be biased or the masses may think so. Don't automatically go with the flow because it's the easiest wagon to jump on. I mean, there's so much more I could embellish on this subject in my attempt to convey my thought here, but hopefully I have accomplished that with just this. Anyway, good to see someone who it seems to me that I could classify as a free and independent thinker. Kudos to you man.

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:14:55 PM

Posted By: Walter

The advantage of being 89 is that you become familiar with recurring climate changes. Take global warming for instance. I was aware that: (1): The 1930's was warmer here in Texas than it is now (confirmed by NASA recently in rectifying previously erroneous temperature publications). (2): In the late 19th century Artic explorers were sailing across the Siberian Arctic from Norway to the Behring Sea and from Greenland across Northern Canada to the Behring. (3): I also know that the Polar ice-cap is floating ice and that floating ice when it melts diminishes the water level because the ice is lighter than water and therefore occupies greater space than the water content. That is why frozen water pipes will break. I am not a scientist, but I know a deliberate lie when I see one. And all the big social movements today that contain words such as Global, Universal, or Green This or That are all fraudulent - and you can put Ethanol with that also. Walter from Orange

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:13:50 PM

Posted By: R.R. Reynolds

This whole flap over GW is due to trying to predict future climates using mathematical modeling techniques which do not successfully match past climate changes with known amounts of CO2. How can we expect to predict the future climate with such flawed tools? We could expect as reliable results using the "Farmer's Almanac." During the Mideval Warm spell, CO2 in the atmosphere did not increase for several hundred years after it began around 1000 years ago, indicating that prolong warming causes the ocean to release some of its stored CO2. This fact alone should bring elaborate energy and money consuming plans to sequester CO2 to a screeching halt. We should feel lucky to be in a warming trend and hope it continues because humanity can adapt to a warmer climate much better than the return of another ice age. R R Reynolds, Geologist, retired

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:12:59 PM

Posted By: Jack Kelly

About this time last year, Dr. Phil Jones, head of the Climatic Research Unit of East Anglia University in Britain, predicted 2007 would be the warmest year on record. It didn't turn out that way. 2007 was only the 9th warmest year since global temperature readings were first made in 1861. 2007 was also the coldest year of this century, noted Czech physicist Lubos Motl. Both global warming alarmists like Dr. Jones and skeptics like Dr. Motl forecast that this year will be slightly cooler than last year. If so, that means it will be a decade since the high water mark in global temperature was set in 1998. And the trend line is down. Average global temperature in 2007 was lower than for 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002 and 2001. November of last year was the coldest month since January of 2000, and December was colder still. "Global warming has stopped," said David Whitehouse, former science editor for the BBC. "It's not a viewpoint or a skeptic's inaccuracy. It's an observational fact." But observational fact matters little to global warming alarmists, particularly to those in the news media. "In 2008, your television will bring you image after image of natural havoc linked to global warming," said John Tierney, who writes a science column for the New York Times. "You will be told that such bizarre weather must be a sign of dangerous climate change -- and that these images are a mere preview of what's in store unless we act quickly to cool the planet." "Global warming can mean colder, it can mean drier, it can mean wetter," said Steven Guibeault of Greenpeace. There is no dispute among scientists that the planet warmed about 0.3 degrees Celsius between 1980 and 1998. What is in dispute is what caused the warming, and whether it will continue. The alarmists say the warming was caused chiefly by emissions of carbon dioxide from our automobiles and factories, and that, consequently, it will continue at an ever increasing rate unless we humans change our behavior. The skeptics say the warming trend was caused chiefly by natural cycles, and that it is at or near its end. "The earth is at the peak of one of its passing warm spells," said Dr. Oleg Sorokhtin of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences. It'll start getting cold by 2012, and really, really cold around 2041, he predicts. The news media promote global warming alarmism through selective reporting. Dr. Roger Pielke of the University of Colorado noted that a paper published in an obscure scientific journal that argued there was a link between hurricanes and global warming generated 79 news articles, while a paper that debunked the connection published in a far more prestigious journal generated only three. "When the Arctic sea ice last year hit the lowest level ever recorded by satellites, it was big news and heralded as a sign the planet was warming," Mr. Tierney wrote. "When the Antarctic sea ice last year reached the highest level ever recorded by satellites, it was pretty much ignored." Two studies published last year which indicated the melting of Arctic sea ice was due more to cyclical changes in ocean currents and winds than to planetary warming also attracted little attention, Mr. Tierney noted. And though the record melting of Arctic sea ice this summer was widely reported, the record growth of Arctic sea ice this fall (58,000 square miles of ice each day for 10 straight days) was not. More than 400 scientists -- many of them members of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change -- challenge the claims of the leading global warming alarmist, former Vice President and now Nobel laureate Al Gore, said a report issued by the Republicans on the U.S. Senate's Environment and Public Works committee last month. Kailee Kreider, a spokeswoman for Mr. Gore, said there criticisms should be discounted because 25 or 30 of the scientists may have received funding from the Exxon Mobil Corp. It's Mr. Gore who is the crook, says French physicist Claude Allegre in a new book. He's made millions in an eco-business based on phony science, Dr. Allegre charges. Mr. Gore isn't alone, says Weather Channel founder John Coleman: "Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an illusion of rapid global warming," Mr. Coleman wrote. "Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going...In time, in a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious."

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:12:36 PM

Posted By: Ray Craft

Bingo! I am looking at my handy dandy map of climate change called "Greenhouse Earth" from National Geographic, August 2007, which shows warming and cooling cycles for 400,000 years. According to NG, the present Warming is about 1-2 degrees cooler than the Warmings of 120,000, 230,000, and 320,000 years ago, and about twice as long as the average of the previous three. I.e., it is right on schedule for a long history of cyclical warming and cooling at intervals of about 100,000 to 120,000 years, and it is well within historic range in magnitude - cooler than the last three Warmings. While there is a spike of CO2 from previous peaks of 280 ppm (0.028% of atmospheric composition) to 380 ppm (0.038% of atmospheric composition), this is not reflected in a spike in global temperature - we are still cooler than the last three Warmings. The variatin in CO2 from 280 ppm to 380 ppm is a meager 0.01% of atmospheric composition, or 1% of 1% of the proportions of atmospheric gases - a change far too trivial to have significant, if even identifiable, climactic effects. According to the same chart, at the last Warm era (-120,000 years) sea level peaked at 4+ meters higher than now. Just before the start of the Holocene Warm Era about 12,000 years ago, sea level had dropped to nearly 120 meters - 400 feet approx. - lower than now. In the next 3,000 years, there was so much Global Warming that it melted off so many continental glaciers that sea level rose, quite rapidly, 400 feet! And that was all because I was driving an SUV!

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:11:52 PM

Posted By: John Berger

What have we come to when an obvious, consummate nut, such as Al Gore, can garner so much attention and support? I used to think of such lemming mentality syndromes as isolated cases, like"Jonestown." A world gone mad portends a much greater threat to it's human population than the worst sci-fi prognostications that I've heard postulated by the most hysterical of the Global Warming ilk! Thank you for creating this site.

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:10:21 PM

Posted By: Barrie Luttge

Global climate and temperature cycles are the result of a complex interplay between a variety of causes. Because these cycles and events overlap, sometimes compounding one another, sometimes canceling one another out, it is inaccurate to imply a statistically significant trend in climate or temperature patterns from just a few years or a few decades of data. Unfortunately, a lot of disinformation about where Earth's climate is heading is being propagated by "scientists" who use improper statistical methods, short-term temperature trends, or faulty computer models to make analytical and anecdotal projections about the significance of man-made influences to Earth's climate. During the last 100 years there have been two general cycles of warming and cooling recorded in the U.S. We are currently in the second warming cycle. Overall, U.S. temperatures show no significant warming trend over the last 100 years (1). This has been well-established but not well-publicized. Each year Government press releases declare the previous year to be the "hottest year on record." The UN's executive summary on climate change, issued in January 2001, insists that the 20th century was the warmest in the last millennium. The news media distribute these stories and people generally believed them to be true. However, as most climatologists know, these reports generally are founded on ground-based temperature readings, which are misleading. The more meaningful and precise orbiting satellite data for the same period (which are generally not cited by the press) have year after year showed little or no warming. Dr. Patrick Michaels has demonstrated this effect is a common problem with ground-based recording stations, many of which originally were located in predominantly rural areas, but over time have suffered background bias due to urban sprawl and the encroachment of concrete and asphalt ( the "urban heat island effect"). The result has been an upward distortion of increases in ground temperature over time(2). Satellite measurements are not limited in this way, and are accurate to within 0.1° C. They are widely recognized by scientists as the most accurate data available. Significantly, global temperature readings from orbiting satellites show no significant warming in the 18 years they have been continuously recording and returning data. ________________________________________ See this link: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html and this: http://mysite.verizon.net/mhieb/WVFossils/ice_ages.html (the document "Global Warming: a Chilling Perspective" has been moved from the URL where I originally found it. I have a suspicion that the information and links it contains threaten the doomsayer contingent, and have aroused attempts at suppression.) George Monbiot | The Rich World's Policy on Greenhouse Gas Now Seems Clear: Millions Will Die http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/01/896/ and an excerpt: Oh, boy... S&A Oil Report pick ConocoPhillips (COP) became the first U.S. oil major to join the call for a global-warming emissions cap. Why would it do this? For the same reason drug companies welcomed regulation, and the same reason the tobacco companies welcomed regulation. Shaping legislation on "global warming" will enable COP to pass on more of its costs to its customers and to make it harder for smaller oil companies to compete against it. Now you see the real meaning of "global warming": a massive new lobby in Washington, new rules and regulations, higher costs for you and me. Never mind how cold it is.

Posted on: 4/28/2008 1:08:52 PM

Posted By: Fred Hamble

My condolences to the previous poster who has apparently spent a little too much time "growing herbs" and sampling them. The term "evidence" is one that is thrown around conveniently by people trying to make a point that results in them getting money for their effort. Should I listen to Al Gore just because he learned Poerpoint and bought a video camera? Doesn't he fly around the world in a large jet run on fule to tell people they shouldn't use so much fuel? Hypocrite much!?!

Posted on: 4/16/2008 3:10:40 PM

Posted By: Christopher Cummings

You seem to have convinced yourself that humans are not affecting our environment using your own flimsy logic rather than actual scientific data. It is unfortunate that you feel so sure of yourself regarding a topic which you are clearly ignorant of, and even more unfortunate that you feel compelled to disseminate your poorly-developed thoughts. How seriously do you expect people to take a guy who doesn’t understand the difference between being conscious and having conscience. You can’t even use apostrophes correctly! Sure, most of our leaders are not setting a great example. What’s new? That doesn’t make climatologists wrong. And what do we have to lose by using less petroleum? Even if global warming is not real, as you contend, oil dependence sucks for a lot of other reasons. We fund terrorists with oil money, and then we have to spend more oil and money fighting them. It’s idiocy in its purest form. If you think you’re getting ripped off by “green” industries, you should check out the crooks at OPEC. They are a lot worse than you or even Al Gore.

Posted on: 4/14/2008 9:16:52 PM